Comments on: Theory 11, One-on-One and the Perfect Pass http://aaronfishermagic.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/theory-11-one-on-one-and-the-perfect-pass/ Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:16:34 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: aaronfishermagic http://aaronfishermagic.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/theory-11-one-on-one-and-the-perfect-pass/#comment-60 aaronfishermagic Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:49:30 +0000 http://aaronfishermagic.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/theory-11-one-on-one-and-the-perfect-pass/#comment-60 Thanks to Josh up above for listing a couple more pass applications that don't scream "Watch..quick...I'm doing the pass!" Gratefully, Aaron Thanks to Josh up above for listing a couple more pass applications that don’t scream “Watch..quick…I’m doing the pass!”

Gratefully,
Aaron

]]> By: aaronfishermagic http://aaronfishermagic.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/theory-11-one-on-one-and-the-perfect-pass/#comment-59 aaronfishermagic Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:46:35 +0000 http://aaronfishermagic.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/theory-11-one-on-one-and-the-perfect-pass/#comment-59 Of course, Paul, that IS the best advice. The point of my article is to build your magic in such a way that you never have to wait for very long! With Thanks, Aaron Of course, Paul, that IS the best advice.
The point of my article is to build your magic in such a way that you never have to wait for very long!

With Thanks,
Aaron

]]> By: Paul Rooney http://aaronfishermagic.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/theory-11-one-on-one-and-the-perfect-pass/#comment-57 Paul Rooney Sat, 29 Sep 2007 00:58:46 +0000 http://aaronfishermagic.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/theory-11-one-on-one-and-the-perfect-pass/#comment-57 Aaron, Excellent article on the pass. Allan Ackerman also mentions that one must be careful of others 'on the perimeter'. If you are working in a restaurant surrounded by others - not the audience at the moment - WILL see the flash of the pass occur as the halves transpose. This is very bad. Allan mentions he's even seen this happen at the Magic Castle. People across the room will whisper to each other "Did you see that, etc." So in his KARDMA book Allan writes "The pass is hardly ever needed". Allan can perform several different passes flawlessly. I asked him to show me 'The Spread Pass' - this was in 2001 or 02. I didn't see anything. He said, "I just did it" - 'sleightly' annoyed!! Then he did it again. 100 percent invisible. Don England is a master of the pass as well. Don latest DVD - "The Pass (Lifts and Shifts)" was shot at the TSD convention in New Orleans in March of this year. It's still 'in the works'. Don is a master of misdirection AND timing with several different passes. Your best advice (from someone who does not really do a pass) is this - Do it like I did it as a kid; and as you meniton: When they look up! - and don't do it if there are others "on the outskirts" waiting for you to come and entertain them. Great Blog! Great advice, great guy (Aaron Fisher!) ----Paul---- Aaron,

Excellent article on the pass. Allan Ackerman also mentions that one must be careful of others ‘on the perimeter’. If you are working in a restaurant surrounded by others – not the audience at the moment – WILL see the flash of the pass occur as the halves transpose. This is very bad.

Allan mentions he’s even seen this happen at the Magic Castle. People across the room will whisper to each other “Did you see that, etc.”

So in his KARDMA book Allan writes “The pass is hardly ever needed”.

Allan can perform several different passes flawlessly. I asked him to show me ‘The Spread Pass’ – this was in 2001 or 02. I didn’t see anything. He said, “I just did it” – ’sleightly’ annoyed!! Then he did it again. 100 percent invisible.

Don England is a master of the pass as well. Don latest DVD – “The Pass (Lifts and Shifts)” was shot at the TSD convention in New Orleans in March of this year. It’s still ‘in the works’. Don is a master of misdirection AND timing with several different passes.

Your best advice (from someone who does not really do a pass) is this – Do it like I did it as a kid; and as you meniton: When they look up! – and don’t do it if there are others “on the outskirts” waiting for you to come and entertain them.

Great Blog! Great advice, great guy (Aaron Fisher!)

—-Paul—-

]]> By: aaronfishermagic http://aaronfishermagic.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/theory-11-one-on-one-and-the-perfect-pass/#comment-56 aaronfishermagic Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:16:36 +0000 http://aaronfishermagic.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/theory-11-one-on-one-and-the-perfect-pass/#comment-56 Al, That's the great point! Thanks, Aaron Al,

That’s the great point!

Thanks,

Aaron

]]> By: Al Grose http://aaronfishermagic.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/theory-11-one-on-one-and-the-perfect-pass/#comment-55 Al Grose Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:23:48 +0000 http://aaronfishermagic.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/theory-11-one-on-one-and-the-perfect-pass/#comment-55 Hey Aaron, I went to a Magic Meeting a couple of years ago at a club. A fellow wanted the group to tell him how his pass looked. I said, "Why don't you show it in the context of an effect?" His response? "I don't know any effects." Asking someone, "How does my pass look?" is as misguided as a musician asking another musician, "How does my 'g' note sound?" The response to both questions is actually the same. "I guess it's okay, but can you play a song with it?" I love your thought provoking insights on magic Aaron. I look forward to the next discussion. Always respectfully, Al Hey Aaron,
I went to a Magic Meeting a couple of years ago at a club. A fellow wanted the group to tell him how his pass looked. I said, “Why don’t you show it in the context of an effect?” His response? “I don’t know any effects.”
Asking someone, “How does my pass look?” is as misguided as a musician asking another musician, “How does my ‘g’ note sound?” The response to both questions is actually the same. “I guess it’s okay, but can you play a song with it?”
I love your thought provoking insights on magic Aaron. I look forward to the next discussion.

Always respectfully,
Al

]]> By: aaronfishermagic http://aaronfishermagic.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/theory-11-one-on-one-and-the-perfect-pass/#comment-54 aaronfishermagic Thu, 27 Sep 2007 05:23:23 +0000 http://aaronfishermagic.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/theory-11-one-on-one-and-the-perfect-pass/#comment-54 Matt has made a great observation regarding Malini. I know for a fact that the great Max Malini was a fan of Erdnase himself, because I once got to page through his personal copy of Expert at the Table. It even had his hand written notes in the margin! Regarding the idea of building your own pass - I understand where you're coming from. I worked on that project myself for over a decade. Ultimately I was very fortunate. I developed some interesting versions - the very ones that appear in the Paper Engine. But in truth, if you want to learn the classic pass, my best advice is to learn it from Erdnase. It's very easy to read those instructions and make changes to make it easier - or to progress faster. Unfortunately, I never found any shortcuts. In fact, the approach probably helped me lose more time than I gained. Ultimately - I truly feel the best thing to do is take Erdase's passes, all of them, and learn them exactly as described. Try always to follow the instructions without variation. Each one gives lessons pertaining to all the rest. Pound for pound, these are clearly the best versions of the shift ever to see print. Great Work Matt - Keep at it! Aaron Matt has made a great observation regarding Malini. I know for a fact that the great Max Malini was a fan of Erdnase himself, because I once got to page through his personal copy of Expert at the Table. It even had his hand written notes in the margin!

Regarding the idea of building your own pass – I understand where you’re coming from. I worked on that project myself for over a decade. Ultimately I was very fortunate. I developed some interesting versions – the very ones that appear in the Paper Engine. But in truth, if you want to learn the classic pass, my best advice is to learn it from Erdnase. It’s very easy to read those instructions and make changes to make it easier – or to progress faster. Unfortunately, I never found any shortcuts. In fact, the approach probably helped me lose more time than I gained.

Ultimately – I truly feel the best thing to do is take Erdase’s passes, all of them, and learn them exactly as described. Try always to follow the instructions without variation. Each one gives lessons pertaining to all the rest. Pound for pound, these are clearly the best versions of the shift ever to see print.

Great Work Matt – Keep at it!

Aaron

]]> By: Matt G. http://aaronfishermagic.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/theory-11-one-on-one-and-the-perfect-pass/#comment-53 Matt G. Thu, 27 Sep 2007 00:19:27 +0000 http://aaronfishermagic.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/theory-11-one-on-one-and-the-perfect-pass/#comment-53 I've personally never used a pass in performance. Firstly, I'm not to comfortable with it yet. Secondly, there are just so many other moves that give the same effect. I have been thinking about creating my own version of the pass or 'shift' as Erdnase calls it. Do you know any good sources where I could find out about different types of passes? I'm trying to combine methods to create the best pass for myself. P.S. Malini had small hands for a magician and after a card was selected and placed in the deck he would hold a break for a about 1-2 minutes and talk to the spectators before he made a pass. This way the spectators would be caught off guard because they will truly believe their card was lost and since they saw no movement of Malini's hands for about 2 minutes they wouldn't even expect the move. Malini said 'I'll vait, I vait a veek...' so as Aaron said don't try to rush a pass right after the card is replaced. I’ve personally never used a pass in performance. Firstly, I’m not to comfortable with it yet. Secondly, there are just so many other moves that give the same effect. I have been thinking about creating my own version of the pass or ’shift’ as Erdnase calls it. Do you know any good sources where I could find out about different types of passes? I’m trying to combine methods to create the best pass for myself.

P.S. Malini had small hands for a magician and after a card was selected and placed in the deck he would hold a break for a about 1-2 minutes and talk to the spectators before he made a pass. This way the spectators would be caught off guard because they will truly believe their card was lost and since they saw no movement of Malini’s hands for about 2 minutes they wouldn’t even expect the move. Malini said ‘I’ll vait, I vait a veek…’ so as Aaron said don’t try to rush a pass right after the card is replaced.

]]> By: aaronfishermagic http://aaronfishermagic.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/theory-11-one-on-one-and-the-perfect-pass/#comment-52 aaronfishermagic Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:20:59 +0000 http://aaronfishermagic.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/theory-11-one-on-one-and-the-perfect-pass/#comment-52 I don't have a specific date for the release of that particular one-on-one as of yet. It's all in the hands now of Wayne and Dana. Of course, you guys will be the first to know! Gratefully, Aaron I don’t have a specific date for the release of that particular one-on-one as of yet. It’s all in the hands now of Wayne and Dana. Of course, you guys will be the first to know!

Gratefully,
Aaron

]]> By: Aaron DeLong http://aaronfishermagic.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/theory-11-one-on-one-and-the-perfect-pass/#comment-51 Aaron DeLong Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:46:50 +0000 http://aaronfishermagic.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/theory-11-one-on-one-and-the-perfect-pass/#comment-51 I meant for me to open that can of worms. Aaron I meant for me to open that can of worms.

Aaron

]]> By: Aaron DeLong http://aaronfishermagic.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/theory-11-one-on-one-and-the-perfect-pass/#comment-50 Aaron DeLong Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:46:21 +0000 http://aaronfishermagic.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/theory-11-one-on-one-and-the-perfect-pass/#comment-50 True that Fisher! Probably not the best place to open that can of worms. But you are right about the Spread Pass. Aaron True that Fisher! Probably not the best place to open that can of worms. But you are right about the Spread Pass.

Aaron

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